Ah, škoda truda, res, kaj sploh sprašujem. Ti, Saphire, preprosto nič ne veš. Pa ni problem, povej, da ne veš, pa je. Saj jaz tudi ne vem kaj je svetlobna terapija. Guglat pa znam, veš, me ni treba tu zasipat s kilometri tekstov. Sem mislila, da boš v dveh, treh stavkih sama povedala.
Ce znas guglati, potem ves, prav tako kot vem jaz 🙂))
Ce te tema moti, jo preskoci in zapri.
Simples. 🙂 😆
kaj naj preskočim? Saj sem te jaz vprašala če veš kaj je svetlobna terapija!! In seveda računala na kratko pojasnilce. Brezupno.
Ah, škoda truda, res, kaj sploh sprašujem. Ti, Saphire, preprosto nič ne veš. Pa ni problem, povej, da ne veš, pa je. Saj jaz tudi ne vem kaj je svetlobna terapija. Guglat pa znam, veš, me ni treba tu zasipat s kilometri tekstov. Sem mislila, da boš v dveh, treh stavkih sama povedala.
Ce znas guglati, potem ves, prav tako kot vem jaz 🙂))
Ce te tema moti, jo preskoci in zapri.
Simples. 🙂 😆
kaj naj preskočim? Saj sem te jaz vprašala če veš kaj je svetlobna terapija!! In seveda računala na kratko pojasnilce. Brezupno.
Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri 😆 😛
Ah, škoda truda, res, kaj sploh sprašujem. Ti, Saphire, preprosto nič ne veš. Pa ni problem, povej, da ne veš, pa je. Saj jaz tudi ne vem kaj je svetlobna terapija. Guglat pa znam, veš, me ni treba tu zasipat s kilometri tekstov. Sem mislila, da boš v dveh, treh stavkih sama povedala.
Ce znas guglati, potem ves, prav tako kot vem jaz 🙂))
Ce te tema moti, jo preskoci in zapri.
Simples. 🙂 😆
kaj naj preskočim? Saj sem te jaz vprašala če veš kaj je svetlobna terapija!! In seveda računala na kratko pojasnilce. Brezupno.
Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri 😆 😛
SAD = Seasonal Affective Disorder - Bright light therapy
Home > Seasonal affective disorder - Bright light therapy
Bright light therapy has been in use for resolving seasonal affective disorder for several years. The process involves sending intense light through the eyes to reach the retina.
The nerve impulses created activate pineal gland in the mid-brain to reduce the production of melatonin, which has direct therapy effect on the sleep/wake patterns.
Bright light therapy system
It is necessary to undergo bright light therapy under the guidance of a medical professional.
The light system consists of a box wherein a set of fluorescent lamps are fixed to give the ambient level of intensity of light.
These therapy boxes are available in the intensity range of 2000-10000 lux; higher the lux. value, costlier they are.
The time required to spend before the therapy box get reduced with higher intensity.
At 10000 lux level the patient need to sit for about 30 minutes only.
Presently white spectrum is preferred and is found to be more effective.
Patients respond well to the SAD regimen if it is given early in the morning.
One important factor is the UV rays produced by the lamps. Proper screen must be there to filter the harmful ultraviolet rays.
The light box must be from a reputed manufacturer with the clear guarantee of the intensity of light produced and also of the UV protection.
Seasonal affective disorder - bright light therapy lamp
Seasonal affective disorder - bright light therapy lamp (enlarge)
Bright light therapy method for the disorder
The disorder affected person is made to sit facing bright light box with eyes open.
He must refrain from gazing directly at the source so as not to tire his eyes.
He must sit close to the lamp to get greater intensity (at the prescribed distance recommended by the lamp manufacturer).
The rays must fall on the face and eyes from a higher angle so as not to produce glare.
Normal activities like eating and reading can be done. The requirement is only that the rays falls on the eyes.
This should go on till the spring. If stopped in between the Seasonal affective disorder may relapse.
There are rare side effects in the bright light therapy. Some persons with sensitive eyes get disturbing visual glare. Persons with retinal or ocular disorders must take the advice of their ophthalmologist. Some people with sensitive skin can get skin inflammation. Some people may switch to hyper-active mood during seasonal affective disorder bright light therapy. http://allnutriments.blogspot.si/2009/11/sad-bright-light-therapy.htmlhttp://allnutriments.blogspot.si/2009/11/sad-bright-light-therapy.htmlhttp://allnutriments.blogspot.si/2009/11/sad-bright-light-therapy.html
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 12:58
Ne, Saphire, če na forumu nekaj vprašaš, ni tako nenavadno pričakovati, da ti nekdo odgovori. Iz glave. Ker ve. ne pa da ti lepa kilometre tujih zapisov. Seveda najraje v angleščini ...
No, sem že dognala sama, preko gugla, človek takoj pade na stran ki mu v dveh stavkih pojasni. Imam namreč tuš kabino ki omogoča kromoterapijo, pa sem preverjala, a govorimo o istem. Ja, govorimo.
Ne, Saphire, če na forumu nekaj vprašaš, ni tako nenavadno pričakovati, da ti nekdo odgovori. Iz glave. Ker ve. ne pa da ti lepa kilometre tujih zapisov. Seveda najraje v angleščini ...
No, sem že dognala sama, preko gugla, človek takoj pade na stran ki mu v dveh stavkih pojasni. Imam namreč tuš kabino ki omogoča kromoterapijo, pa sem preverjala, a govorimo o istem. Ja, govorimo.
Naj... Ponovim...pocasi 🙂
"Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
"Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri "
Ne, Saphire, če na forumu nekaj vprašaš, ni tako nenavadno pričakovati, da ti nekdo odgovori. Iz glave. Ker ve. ne pa da ti lepa kilometre tujih zapisov. Seveda najraje v angleščini ...
No, sem že dognala sama, preko gugla, človek takoj pade na stran ki mu v dveh stavkih pojasni. Imam namreč tuš kabino ki omogoča kromoterapijo, pa sem preverjala, a govorimo o istem. Ja, govorimo.
Naj Ponovim, pocasi 🙂
"Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
"Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri "
Očitno ne veš kaj pomeni kratko pojasnilo. Naj te brez lučke in zafrkantskih slikic razsvetlim - govorimo o max treh jasnih stavkih.
In pa drži se lastnega pametovanja - če te moji zapisi motijo, jih lahko brez žaljenja preskočiš.
Ne, Saphire, če na forumu nekaj vprašaš, ni tako nenavadno pričakovati, da ti nekdo odgovori. Iz glave. Ker ve. ne pa da ti lepa kilometre tujih zapisov. Seveda najraje v angleščini ...
No, sem že dognala sama, preko gugla, človek takoj pade na stran ki mu v dveh stavkih pojasni. Imam namreč tuš kabino ki omogoča kromoterapijo, pa sem preverjala, a govorimo o istem. Ja, govorimo.
Naj Ponovim, pocasi 🙂
"Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
"Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri "
Očitno ne veš kaj pomeni kratko pojasnilo. Naj te brez lučke in zafrkantskih slikic razsvetlim - govorimo o max treh jasnih stavkih.
In pa drži se lastnega pametovanja - če te moji zapisi motijo, jih lahko brez žaljenja preskočiš.
ROLF 😆
Moje pojasnilo so trije kratki stavki.
Naj Ponovim, pocasi 🙂
"Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
"Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri "
Ne, Saphire, če na forumu nekaj vprašaš, ni tako nenavadno pričakovati, da ti nekdo odgovori. Iz glave. Ker ve. ne pa da ti lepa kilometre tujih zapisov. Seveda najraje v angleščini ...
No, sem že dognala sama, preko gugla, človek takoj pade na stran ki mu v dveh stavkih pojasni. Imam namreč tuš kabino ki omogoča kromoterapijo, pa sem preverjala, a govorimo o istem. Ja, govorimo.
Naj Ponovim, pocasi 🙂
"Ce zelis kratko pojasnilce, klikni na linke, ki so na koncu vsakehga clanka.
"Svetlobna terapija je terapija z obsevanjem obraza in torza z mocno lucko, ki odganja zalost.in Stres .
Ker te ocitno ta tema navdaja z zalostjo in stresom, ti svetujem, da jo zapri "
Očitno ne veš kaj pomeni kratko pojasnilo. Naj te brez lučke in zafrkantskih slikic razsvetlim - govorimo o max treh jasnih stavkih.
In pa drži se lastnega pametovanja - če te moji zapisi motijo, jih lahko brez žaljenja preskočiš.
če pa ti nisi tupa ej
trikrat ti je že v enem stavku napisala za kaj gre
daj raj povej kaj te zares muči bo prej konec
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 13:24
Pa dobro, saphire, a se tebi čas nazaj vrti ali kaj? Pojdi na prejšnjo stran, boš videla kdaj sem napisala svoj komentar! Nehaj se pretvarjat in obračat.
Pa dobro, saphire, a se tebi čas nazaj vrti ali kaj? Pojdi na prejšnjo stran, boš videla kdaj sem napisala svoj komentar! Nehaj se pretvarjat in obračat.
Se ne pretvarjam in ne obracam.
The Lady is Not for Turning, kot je rekla Margaret Thatcher 🙂
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 13:30
No, bom pa zate to jaz naredila, velecenjena: Napisala sem vprašanje kaj je svetlobna terapija. Za mojim postom si objavila ti 5 svojih postov s kopiranimi teksti in slikami iz vseh vetrov. IN ŠELE po moji kritiki, da škoda, da mi ne napišeš sama kratkega pojasnila, če ga veš, če ga ne veš, pa pač poveš, da ne veš ... je KONČNO sledilo nekaj kratkega.
Mogoče sedaj bolj jasno?
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ojoj 21.01.2016 ob 13:34
Avtor: kaj je
No, bom pa zate to jaz naredila, velecenjena: Napisala sem vprašanje kaj je svetlobna terapija. Za mojim postom si objavila ti 5 svojih postov s kopiranimi teksti in slikami iz vseh vetrov. IN ŠELE po moji kritiki, da škoda, da mi ne napišeš sama kratkega pojasnila, če ga veš, če ga ne veš, pa pač poveš, da ne veš ... je KONČNO sledilo nekaj kratkega.
Mogoče sedaj bolj jasno?
po tem si jo pa še štirkrat vprašala zakaj ne napiše na kratko. da se ji le da tebe izobraževat.
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 13:35
Avtor: ojoj
Avtor: kaj je
No, bom pa zate to jaz naredila, velecenjena: Napisala sem vprašanje kaj je svetlobna terapija. Za mojim postom si objavila ti 5 svojih postov s kopiranimi teksti in slikami iz vseh vetrov. IN ŠELE po moji kritiki, da škoda, da mi ne napišeš sama kratkega pojasnila, če ga veš, če ga ne veš, pa pač poveš, da ne veš ... je KONČNO sledilo nekaj kratkega.
Mogoče sedaj bolj jasno?
po tem si jo pa še štirkrat vprašala zakaj ne napiše na kratko. da se ji le da tebe izobraževat.
Nič bat, saj me ne izobražuje. In tudi sebe ne, samo uri se v večini copy pastanja.
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ahja 21.01.2016 ob 13:39
Avtor: kaj je
Avtor: ojoj
Avtor: kaj je
No, bom pa zate to jaz naredila, velecenjena: Napisala sem vprašanje kaj je svetlobna terapija. Za mojim postom si objavila ti 5 svojih postov s kopiranimi teksti in slikami iz vseh vetrov. IN ŠELE po moji kritiki, da škoda, da mi ne napišeš sama kratkega pojasnila, če ga veš, če ga ne veš, pa pač poveš, da ne veš ... je KONČNO sledilo nekaj kratkega.
Mogoče sedaj bolj jasno?
po tem si jo pa še štirkrat vprašala zakaj ne napiše na kratko. da se ji le da tebe izobraževat.
Nič bat, saj me ne izobražuje. In tudi sebe ne, samo uri se v večini copy pastanja.
ti si pa predvidevam zastopnik neumnih? odgovorna za stike z javnostjo tistih bolj trdih buč? ja vsak ima svoje delo. prav je tako. srečno obema!
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 13:48
Ne, ne, jaz sem pa strastna zagovornica avtorjev, ki znajo na forumih na kratko napisat svoje misli ali informacijo ...in nasprotnica tistih, ki ga spemajo in zabašejo s kopiranjem množine slik, tujih tekstov in podobnega.
Ne, ne, jaz sem pa strastna zagovornica avtorjev, ki znajo na forumih na kratko napisat svoje misli ali informacijo ...in nasprotnica tistih, ki ga spemajo in zabašejo s kopiranjem množine slik, tujih tekstov in podobnega.
Ker seveda MORAS sodelovati v temi, ki se ti zdi nezanimiva in nevem kajze 😆 😛
Naj te potolazim, to ni zapovedano 🙂
Prav lahko zapres temo, in odpres svojo, na primer Vae Izkusnje s Svetlobno terapijo, prosim 😛:D
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se že veselim 21.01.2016 ob 13:54
Avtor: kaj je
Ne, ne, jaz sem pa strastna zagovornica avtorjev, ki znajo na forumih na kratko napisat svoje misli ali informacijo ...in nasprotnica tistih, ki ga spemajo in zabašejo s kopiranjem množine slik, tujih tekstov in podobnega.
No potem pa pokaži nekaj svojih tem ali komentarjev v temah da vidimo, kako se tej stvari pravilno streže.
Ne, ne, jaz sem pa strastna zagovornica avtorjev, ki znajo na forumih na kratko napisat svoje misli ali informacijo ...in nasprotnica tistih, ki ga spemajo in zabašejo s kopiranjem množine slik, tujih tekstov in podobnega.
Ker seveda MORAS sodelovati v temi, ki se ti zdi nezanimiva in nevem kajze 😆 😛
Naj te potolazim, to ni zapovedano 🙂
Prav lahko zapres temo, in odpres svojo, na primer Vae Izkusnje s Svetlobno terapijo, prosim 😛:D
Mene bi taka tema zelo zanimala.
Ampak resno 🙂
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 14:18
Mene je res zanimalo kaj je svetlobna terapija (na kratko). Nisem zafrkavala, ko sem te to vprašala.
Je pa bila definitivno dobra izkušnja, ja, bolje zate in zame da te nikoli več ničesar ne vprašam. Ker je 99% verjetnost, da odgovora ne poznaš in ker me boš v vsakem primeru (tudi tistim z 1%no verjetnostjo) zasula čez glavo s pretirano detajliranimi in preobsežnimi teksti, ki bodo meni dvignili pritisk na 220.
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se že veselim 21.01.2016 ob 14:21
Avtor: kaj je
Mene je res zanimalo kaj je svetlobna terapija (na kratko). Nisem zafrkavala, ko sem te to vprašala.
Je pa bila definitivno dobra izkušnja, ja, bolje zate in zame da te nikoli več ničesar ne vprašam. Ker je 99% verjetnost, da odgovora ne poznaš in ker me boš v vsakem primeru (tudi tistim z 1%no verjetnostjo) zasula čez glavo s pretirano detajliranimi in preobsežnimi teksti, ki bodo meni dvignili pritisk na 220.
Torej samo dežurna nergačica. Tudi prav.
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ka je 21.01.2016 ob 14:23
Avtor: se že veselim
Avtor: kaj je
Mene je res zanimalo kaj je svetlobna terapija (na kratko). Nisem zafrkavala, ko sem te to vprašala.
Je pa bila definitivno dobra izkušnja, ja, bolje zate in zame da te nikoli več ničesar ne vprašam. Ker je 99% verjetnost, da odgovora ne poznaš in ker me boš v vsakem primeru (tudi tistim z 1%no verjetnostjo) zasula čez glavo s pretirano detajliranimi in preobsežnimi teksti, ki bodo meni dvignili pritisk na 220.
Torej samo dežurna nergačica. Tudi prav.
No, pa povej, a tebi je ok, če te nekaj na zanima, česa si bolj vesela:
serijo petih postov s kilometrskim popisov vseh detajlov v angleščini
treh stavkov avtorice, napisanih na podlagi njenega znanja, izkušenj?
Mene je res zanimalo kaj je svetlobna terapija (na kratko). Nisem zafrkavala, ko sem te to vprašala.
Je pa bila definitivno dobra izkušnja, ja, bolje zate in zame da te nikoli več ničesar ne vprašam. Ker je 99% verjetnost, da odgovora ne poznaš in ker me boš v vsakem primeru (tudi tistim z 1%no verjetnostjo) zasula čez glavo s pretirano detajliranimi in preobsežnimi teksti, ki bodo meni dvignili pritisk na 220.
Torej samo dežurna nergačica. Tudi prav.
No, pa povej, a tebi je ok, če te nekaj na zanima, česa si bolj vesela:
serijo petih postov s kilometrskim popisov vseh detajlov v angleščini
treh stavkov avtorice, napisanih na podlagi njenega znanja, izkušenj?
hmm m. ZA IZkusnje pa poglej na stran 11
Ce te ze zanima 🙂 😛 😆
Osebne izkusnje in izkusnje iz druge roke v procesu terapije.
Vendar te ta tema tako zelo moti, da je ne mores zapreti in moras pisati v njej.
Cakam no tvojo, o kromoterapiji. 😛 🙂)
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 14:30
Avtor: se že veselim
Avtor: kaj je
Ne, ne, jaz sem pa strastna zagovornica avtorjev, ki znajo na forumih na kratko napisat svoje misli ali informacijo ...in nasprotnica tistih, ki ga spemajo in zabašejo s kopiranjem množine slik, tujih tekstov in podobnega.
No potem pa pokaži nekaj svojih tem ali komentarjev v temah da vidimo, kako se tej stvari pravilno streže.
Danes sem podala na forumu info v temi Maldivov glede bičanja posiljene deklice, mnenje glede data tistega poštenega 28letnega fanta, odgovorila sem koliko kvasa se rabi in kako se naredi kvasec, komentirala glede ideje, da je Tito prodajal firme tujcem; untipu dala mnenje glede šala; koemntirala glede ministrice itn itn ........ in začuda vse iz glave, brez tujih tekstov, bravo jaz.
Mene je res zanimalo kaj je svetlobna terapija (na kratko). Nisem zafrkavala, ko sem te to vprašala.
Je pa bila definitivno dobra izkušnja, ja, bolje zate in zame da te nikoli več ničesar ne vprašam. Ker je 99% verjetnost, da odgovora ne poznaš in ker me boš v vsakem primeru (tudi tistim z 1%no verjetnostjo) zasula čez glavo s pretirano detajliranimi in preobsežnimi teksti, ki bodo meni dvignili pritisk na 220.
Torej samo dežurna nergačica. Tudi prav.
No, pa povej, a tebi je ok, če te nekaj na zanima, česa si bolj vesela:
serijo petih postov s kilometrskim popisov vseh detajlov v angleščini
treh stavkov avtorice, napisanih na podlagi njenega znanja, izkušenj?
hmm m. ZA IZkusnje pa poglej na stran 11
Ce te ze zanima 🙂 😛 😆
Osebne izkusnje in izkusnje iz druge roke v procesu terapije.
Vendar te ta tema tako zelo moti, da je ne mores zapreti in moras pisati v njej.
Cakam no tvojo, o kromoterapiji. 😛 🙂)
Pa dobro, Saphire, sedaj pa te resno in s primerno zaskrbljenostjo sprašujem, kaj ti je? Ja, vem, da si pisala o AD, ampak ... a ti veš, da sem jaz spraševala samo in le o svetlobni terapiji in o tem sedaj debatirava, če si slučajno pozabila?
Ni nisem pozabila.
Ce zelis debatirati, pa daj.
Ali pa odpri temo o kromoterapiji. 🙂
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 14:38
Kromoterapija te zanima?
Naša parna tuš kabina ponuja uporabo stropne lučke v kabini, gre za precej veliko okroglo svetilo, ki sveti rdeče, rumeno, zeleno, modro. Nastaviš lahko eno barvo ali menjavanje dveh ali več barv v določenem časovnem zaporedju. Rdeča, rumena naj bi poživljali, ostali dve pomirjali. Zadeva se imenuje kromoterapija in po mojem je sinonim za svetlobno terapijo.
Pri nas jo uporabljata le otroka za neke vrste light show med tuširanjem ali visenjem v kopalnici.
KromoterApija zdruzuje zdravljenje s svetlobo in z zdravljenje razlicnimi barvami
ki vsaka po svoje vplivajo na clovekovo pocutje.
Priporocam ti knjigo Dereka Jarmana CHROMA , linkala pa ne bom, 😆
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kaj je 21.01.2016 ob 14:41
Potem misliš, da kromoterapija ni isto kot svetlobna terapija? Saj tudi pri slednji (kolikor sem uspela prebrat) človek uporablja različne barve.
To pa je zato, ker ima vsaka barva svojo frekvenco in odtenek.
Barve so zdravilne tudi same po sebi - ne nujno samo s svetlobo in toploto.
( ce imas npr. oblacilo dolocene barve, ali gledanje slik )
Antipsihotiki so pravzaprav evfemizem za nevro toksine.
" The fact is that neuroleptics are not antipsychotic drugs. They are actually neurotoxic major tranquilizers with devastating side effects, including tardive dyskinesia, akathisia, and loss of brain tissue.
These products are called antipsychotics by psychiatrists and by the pharmaceutical industry in order to create, and maintain, the false impression that these drugs somehow target psychotic thinking. In fact, they do have a suppressing effect on psychotic thinking in some individuals because they suppress all cognitive activity.
Using the term “anti-psychotic” to describe these toxic products is blatant and deliberate deception, but it has tragically become the norm in psychiatric circles.
Kathy – and this is not a criticism – bought the orthodoxy, and her question makes obvious sense.
After all, don’t we treat infections with antibiotics; hypertension with anti-hypertensives; fungus infections with anti-fungals, etc…?
Why wouldn’t one treat psychotic thinking with antipsychotics? The only problem is that the drugs in this case are not antipsychotics. (And, of course, psychotic thinking is not an illness, but that’s a different issue.) The fact that Kathy phrased her question the way she did is a tribute to pharma marketing spin. These guys really know what they’re doing!
Again, I stress, this post is not a criticism of Kathy. She’s worried about her son and struggling to do what’s best. But she has been cruelly deceived for ten years by the profit-driven psychiatry/pharma consortium. My heart goes out to her.
Incidentally, in recent years these drugs are being widely used to control temper tantrums in children. It will be interesting to see if psychiatry/pharma changes the name again to spin this development: “anger-abatement antipsychotics” perhaps?
And let’s not forget that these drugs are also being given to returning soldiers for “PTSD.” “Anger-abatement, anti-painful memories antipsychotics”?
je ohromitev / zastrupitev centralnega zivcnega sistema do dolocene mere.
Toliko, da je pacient se priblizno buden in deujoc.
S to intoxikacijo se zadusi : agresivnost, prevelika razburjenost/ agitacija, motece obnasanje, in ( sele na 4. (cetrtem) mestu....
blodnje in halucinacije.
Torej, nevroLeptiki / lepsis - take hold, zagrabiti iz grscine), ki so se imenovali tudi nevroPlegiki, mocni sedativi in
koncno, brez veliko podlage - AntiPsihotiki - delujejo primarno na razburjenost....
Primarni ucinek je zadusitev kognicije, motorike in custev./ prepricanj.
Stranski ucinki pa so rejenje, diabetes,nevromotoricne motnje kot Tardivna diskinezija in pretirana zaspanost, suha usta, omotica itd.
Primarni ucinke pa je blokada dopamina, kar poleg misli, blodnjavih ali ne-blodnjavih, custev in motivacije,
zadusi tudi sposobnost uzivanja in obcutek zadovoljstva.
To se zgodi zaradi blokade dopamina v nukleus akumbensu, ki je del
mezo-kortikalne poti v mozganih.
Antipsihotiki sicer blokirajo 4 poti ( mezokortikalna, mezolimbicna, nigrostriatalna in tuberoinfidibularna)
vendar je mezokortikalna pot tista, na katero ciljajo ( ker aktivnost na njej uravnava motivacijo, misljenje, voljo in obcutek nagrade)
ostale 3 poti pa so " kolateralna skoda".
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kaj 28.01.2016 ob 21:26
kaj pa antidepresivi kot je paroxat, proti socialni fobiji in generalni anxiozni motnji
kaj pa antidepresivi kot je paroxat, proti socialni fobiji in generalni anxiozni motnji
Niso isto kot AP.
Ad ji umetno dvignejo serotonin, kako pa lahko to pomaga pri socialni fobiji in GAD je pa od vsakega posameznika odvisno.
Kronicno jemanje Adjev pripelje paradoksalno, do depresivnega pocutja/ kronicne depresije.
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kaj 28.01.2016 ob 23:11
zanima me če AD isto deluje kot si napisala za AP torej
je ohromitev / zastrupitev centralnega zivcnega sistema do dolocene mere.
Toliko, da je pacient se priblizno buden in deujoc.
S to intoxikacijo se zadusi : agresivnost, prevelika razburjenost/ agitacija, motece obnasanje, in ( sele na 4. (cetrtem) mestu....
blodnje in halucinacije.
Torej, nevroLeptiki / lepsis - take hold, zagrabiti iz grscine), ki so se imenovali tudi nevroPlegiki, mocni sedativi in
koncno, brez veliko podlage - AntiPsihotiki - delujejo primarno na razburjenost....
Primarni ucinek je zadusitev kognicije, motorike in custev./ prepricanj.
Stranski ucinki pa so rejenje, diabetes,nevromotoricne motnje kot Tardivna diskinezija in pretirana zaspanost, suha usta, omotica itd.
Primarni ucinke pa je blokada dopamina, kar poleg misli, blodnjavih ali ne-blodnjavih, custev in motivacije,
zadusi tudi sposobnost uzivanja in obcutek zadovoljstva.
To se zgodi zaradi blokade dopamina v nukleus akumbensu, ki je del
mezo-kortikalne poti v mozganih.
Antipsihotiki sicer blokirajo 4 poti ( mezokortikalna, mezolimbicna, nigrostriatalna in tuberoinfidibularna)
vendar je mezokortikalna pot tista, na katero ciljajo ( ker aktivnost na njej uravnava motivacijo, misljenje, voljo in obcutek nagrade)
je ohromitev / zastrupitev centralnega zivcnega sistema do dolocene mere.
Toliko, da je pacient se priblizno buden in deujoc.
S to intoxikacijo se zadusi : agresivnost, prevelika razburjenost/ agitacija, motece obnasanje, in ( sele na 4. (cetrtem) mestu....
blodnje in halucinacije.
Torej, nevroLeptiki / lepsis - take hold, zagrabiti iz grscine), ki so se imenovali tudi nevroPlegiki, mocni sedativi in
koncno, brez veliko podlage - AntiPsihotiki - delujejo primarno na razburjenost....
Primarni ucinek je zadusitev kognicije, motorike in custev./ prepricanj.
Stranski ucinki pa so rejenje, diabetes,nevromotoricne motnje kot Tardivna diskinezija in pretirana zaspanost, suha usta, omotica itd.
Primarni ucinke pa je blokada dopamina, kar poleg misli, blodnjavih ali ne-blodnjavih, custev in motivacije,
zadusi tudi sposobnost uzivanja in obcutek zadovoljstva.
To se zgodi zaradi blokade dopamina v nukleus akumbensu, ki je del
mezo-kortikalne poti v mozganih.
Antipsihotiki sicer blokirajo 4 poti ( mezokortikalna, mezolimbicna, nigrostriatalna in tuberoinfidibularna)
vendar je mezokortikalna pot tista, na katero ciljajo ( ker aktivnost na njej uravnava motivacijo, misljenje, voljo in obcutek nagrade)
ostale 3 poti pa so " kolateralna skoda".
Ne, antidepresivi ne delujejo tako.
Delujejo sicer na centralni zivcni sistem, princip pa je drugacen kot pri tkzv. antipsihotikih.
Vsi AD ji - ssri, tricikliki, maoi - na nekaksen nacin poskusajo prepreciti razgradnjo monoamino oksidaze, ali
prepreciti ponovni prevzem , no skratka,
povecati kolicino predvsem serotonina in norepipherina.
Torej, AD ji blokirajo razgradnjo, ne pa delovanja nevrotransmiterjev.
Ap ji pa blokirajo delovanje dopamina, ki je nasploh koristna in prijetna rec.
Vendar vseeno ne vemo veliko o delovanju teh drog, kajti serotonin, noradrenalin in dopamin
so samo nekateri izmed
nevrotransmiterjev. Ki delujejo tudi drug na drugega, na nacine, ki jih vecinoma se niso prestudirali.
Poleg tega, telo samo se prilagodi , in to zelo odvisno od individua.
Nekateri imajo mnogo hitrejsi metabolizem, ze samo to, in veliko hitreje presnovijo substance.
Potem je tu se spol.
V igri je se cel hormonski sistem, zlezni sistem, posebej cesarika,
in kako se ves ta mehanizem odziva na stres.
Jasno je samo da enacba -premalo serotonina -/- ni enako depresija.
Ljudje z visoko ravnjo serotonina ( v krvi,tj) so podlegli depresiji.
Ljudje z nizko ravnjo niso zboleli. Ni pravila.
Ni tudi nobene -"zazeljene ravni serotonina" - npr 562 micro molov ( to si zmisljujem:p:)
Ljudje, ki so jih v poskusih umetno "oropali" serotonina ( s substanco Reserpine)
so postali intenzivno slabe volje, agresivni in imeli so tezave z libidom.
Niso pa razvili znakov klinicne depresije.
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kaj 29.01.2016 ob 15:35
saphire kaj se z mano dogaja, ljudje so me tako prestrašili da zdaj ustanem, čakam u stanovanju, neprijetno se počutim iz strani
okolice skozi okno, anxiozna motnja in samo čakam da pade noč, da pridem malo k sebi
nič ne morem delat, počutim se švoh, jemlje mi energijo ta anxioznost, misli šibajo mimo mene (derealizacija, depersonalizacija)
ko hodim se počutim švoh, mam izbruhe jeze, samo stojim kot kip, tudi ko se grem kopat sedim pa čakam ne morem se zbrat pa
delat stuširat ker me use utruja in sem zelo neumen
saphire kaj se z mano dogaja, ljudje so me tako prestrašili da zdaj ustanem, čakam u stanovanju, neprijetno se počutim iz strani
okolice skozi okno, anxiozna motnja in samo čakam da pade noč, da pridem malo k sebi
nič ne morem delat, počutim se švoh, jemlje mi energijo ta anxioznost, misli šibajo mimo mene (derealizacija, depersonalizacija)
ko hodim se počutim švoh, mam izbruhe jeze, samo stojim kot kip, tudi ko se grem kopat sedim pa čakam ne morem se zbrat pa
delat stuširat ker me use utruja in sem zelo neumen
Ne, seveda nisi neumen, samo trenutno se ti tako zdi. Ali mogoce jemljes ze kaksna zdravila.
Poglej si pritisk in sladkor. Koliko kave spijes. Ali pijes dovolj tekocine, ali spis dovolj in redno...
itd.
To se meni zdi, da ni depra ali kakrsnakoli psihoza, zato ne vidim, kako bi ti lahko ADji ali AP ji pomagali.
Mislim, da te muci PTSD - Post traumatic stress sindrome
"Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Symptoms, Treatment, and Self-Help for PTSD
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
After a traumatic experience, it's normal to feel frightened, sad, anxious, and disconnected. But if the upset doesn't fade and you feel stuck with a constant sense of danger and painful memories, you may be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). It can seem like you'll never get over what happened or feel normal again. But by seeking treatment, reaching out for support, and developing new coping skills, you can overcome PTSD and move on with your life.
What is post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)?
Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) can develop following a traumatic event that threatens your safety or makes you feel helpless.
Most people associate PTSD with battle-scarred soldiers—and military combat is the most common cause in men—but any seemingly life-threatening event—or series of events—that overwhelms you with feelings of hopelessness and helplessness can trigger PTSD, especially if the event feels unpredictable and uncontrollable.
PTSD can affect those who personally experience the catastrophe, those who witness it, and those who pick up the pieces afterwards, including emergency workers and law enforcement officers. It can even occur in the friends or family members of those who went through the actual trauma.
Veterans with PTSD
If you’re a veteran suffering from PTSD or combat stress, there are steps you can take to begin the recovery process and deal with your symptoms. See PTSD in Military Veterans.
Traumatic events that can lead to PTSD include:
War
Natural disasters
Car or plane crashes
Terrorist attacks
Sudden death of a loved one
Rape
Kidnapping
Assault
Sexual or physical abuse
Childhood neglect
Or any shattering, disabling event that leaves you feeling helpless and hopeless
The difference between PTSD and a normal response to trauma
When your sense of safety and trust are shattered by a traumatic event, it’s normal for the mind and body to be in shock. It’s common to have bad dreams, feel fearful, and find it difficult to stop thinking about what happened. For most people, these symptoms gradually lift over time. But this normal response to trauma becomes PTSD when the symptoms don’t ease up and your nervous system gets “stuck” and fails to recover its equilibrium.
The latest research shows that the brain has three ways of regulating the nervous system and responding to stressful events:
Social engagement is the most evolved strategy for keeping yourself feeling calm and safe. Socially interacting with another person—making eye contact, listening in an attentive way, talking—can quickly calm you down and put the brakes on defensive responses like “fight-or-flight.”
Mobilization, or the fight-or-flight response, occurs when social engagement isn’t appropriate and you need to either defend yourself or escape the danger at hand—such as in a natural disaster. Your heart pounds faster, muscles tighten, blood pressure rises, breath quickens, and your senses become sharper. These physical changes increase your strength and stamina and speed your reaction time. Once the danger has passed, your nervous system then calms the body, slowing heart rate, lowering blood pressure, and winding back down to its normal balance.
Immobilization occurs when you’ve experienced an overwhelming amount of stress in a situation and, while the immediate danger has passed, you find yourself “stuck.” Your nervous system is unable to return to its pre-stress state of balance and you’re unable to move on from the event. This is PTSD.
Signs and symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
PTSD develops differently from person to person. While the symptoms of PTSD most commonly develop in the hours or days following the traumatic event, it can sometimes take weeks, months, or even years before they appear. There are three main types of symptoms and they can arise suddenly, gradually, or come and go over time:
Re-experiencing the traumatic event
Avoiding reminders of the trauma
Increased anxiety and emotional arousal
Symptoms of PTSD: Re-experiencing the traumatic event
Intrusive, upsetting memories of the event
Flashbacks (acting or feeling like the event is happening again)
Nightmares (either of the event or other frightening things)
Feelings of intense distress when reminded of the trauma
Intense physical reactions to reminders of the event (e.g. pounding heart, rapid breathing, nausea, muscle tension, sweating)
Symptoms of PTSD: Avoidance and numbing
Avoiding activities, places, thoughts, or feelings that remind you of the trauma
Inability to remember important aspects of the trauma
Loss of interest in activities and life in general
Feeling detached from others and emotionally numb
Sense of a limited future (you don’t expect to live a normal life span, get married, have a career)
Symptoms of PTSD: Increased anxiety and emotional arousal
Difficulty falling or staying asleep
Irritability or outbursts of anger
Difficulty concentrating
Hypervigilance (on constant “red alert”)
Feeling jumpy and easily startled
Other common symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
Guilt, shame, or self-blame
Substance abuse
Feelings of mistrust and betrayal
Depression and hopelessness
Suicidal thoughts and feelings
Physical aches and pains
Symptoms of PTSD in children and adolescents
In children—especially those who are very young—the symptoms of PTSD can be different than those in adults. Symptoms in children include:
Fear of being separated from parent
Losing previously-acquired skills (such as toilet training)
Sleep problems and nightmares without recognizable content
Somber, compulsive play in which themes or aspects of the trauma are repeated
New phobias and anxieties that seem unrelated to the trauma (such as a fear of monsters)
Acting out the trauma through play, stories, or drawings
Aches and pains with no apparent cause
Irritability and aggression
Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) causes and risk factors
Traumatic events are more likely to cause PTSD when they involve a severe threat to your life or personal safety: the more extreme and prolonged the threat, the greater the risk of developing PTSD. Intentional, human-inflicted harm—such as rape, assault, and torture—also tends to be more traumatic than “acts of God” or more impersonal accidents and disasters. The extent to which the traumatic event was unexpected, uncontrollable, and inescapable also plays a role.
Other risk factors for PTSD include:
Previous traumatic experiences, especially in early life
Family history of PTSD or depression
History of physical or sexual abuse
History of substance abuse
History of depression, anxiety, or another mental illness
High level of stress in everyday life
Lack of support after the trauma
Lack of coping skills
Getting help for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
Recovering from PTSD involves helping your nervous system return to its pre-trauma state of balance. As discussed above, the best way to regulate your nervous system is through social engagement—interacting with another human being—be it a loved one, a friend, or a professional therapist. However, as someone with PTSD, you need to first become “unstuck” and move out of the immobilization stress response.
While this process is easier with the guidance and support of an experienced therapist or doctor, you don’t need to wait for a medical appointment to start feeling better. There are plenty of things you can do now to help yourself cope with symptoms, reduce anxiety and fear, and take back control of your life.
PTSD self-help tip 1: Get moving
We’ve long known that exercise can make you feel better, both mentally and physically. However, new research suggests that by really focusing on your body and how it feels as you exercise, you can actually help your nervous system become “unstuck” and move out of the immobilization stress response.
Any exercise that engages both your arms and legs—such as walking, running, swimming, or dancing—will work well if, instead of continuing to focus on your thoughts, you focus on how your body feels as you exercise. Try to notice the sensation of your feet hitting the ground, for example, or the rhythm of your breathing, or the feeling of the wind on your skin. Many people find rock climbing, boxing, or martial arts especially effective as these activities make it easier to maintain the focus on body movements—after all, if you don’t, you could get hurt.
Spending time in nature
Pursuing outdoor activities like hiking, camping, mountain biking, rock climbing, whitewater rafting, and skiing have been shown to help veterans cope with PTSD symptoms and transition back into civilian life.
But it’s not just veterans who can benefit from spending time outdoors. Anyone with PTSD can benefit from the relaxation, seclusion, and peace that come with being out in nature. Focusing on strenuous outdoor activities can also challenge your sense of helplessness and help your nervous system become “unstuck.” Seek out local organizations that offer outdoor recreation or teambuilding opportunities.
PTSD self-help tip 2: Connect with others
Support from other people is vital to your recovery from PTSD. Social interaction with someone who cares about you is the most effective way to calm your nervous system, so it’s important to find someone you can connect with face to face—someone you can talk to for an uninterrupted period of time, someone who will listen to you without judging, criticizing, or continually being distracted by the phone or other people. That person may be your significant other, a family member, or a friend.
How PTSD can get in the way of connecting with others
Many people find that PTSD can leave them feeling disconnected, withdrawn and, while their nervous system is still stuck, make it difficult to connect with other people. No matter how close they are to the person, or how helpful that person tries to be, they just don’t feel any better after talking with them. If that describes you, there are some things you can do to help the process along.
Before you’re due to sit down to chat with a friend or loved one, take some time to exercise. As well as calming you when you’re feeling anxious or on edge, physical activity can also open your nervous system’s pathway to social engagement. Think of it as shaking loose all the blockages to connecting with people.
If exercising isn’t practical, find a quiet place and take a few minutes before you meet your friend to move around, jump up and down, swing your arms and legs—in other words, flail around like you did as a three year old. A few minutes of that and you’ll be breathing heavily, your head will feel clearer, and you’ll be in a better place to connect.
It may sound weird, but vocal toning is also a great way to open up your nervous system to social engagement—even if you can’t sing or consider yourself tone-deaf. Again, find a quiet place before hooking up with a friend and, with a straight back, your lips together and teeth slightly apart, simply make “mmmm” sounds. Change the pitch and volume until you experience a pleasant vibration in your face. Practice for a few minutes and notice if the vibration spreads to your heart and stomach as well.
A powerful program for reconnecting
It’s difficult to connect to others if you’re unable to connect to yourself and what you’re feeling. Helpguide offers a free online program that teaches you how to reconnect to your physical and emotional feelings—even those uncomfortable or disturbing emotions you’ve been trying to avoid—without becoming overwhelmed. It can make a huge difference in your ability to relate to others, manage stress, balance your moods, and take back control of your life.
PTSD self-help tip 3: Challenge your sense of helplessness
Trauma can leave you feeling powerless and vulnerable. It’s important to remind yourself that you have strengths and coping skills that can get you through tough times.
One of the best ways to reclaim your sense of power is by helping others: volunteer your time, give blood, reach out to a friend in need, or donate to your favorite charity. Taking positive action directly challenges the sense of helplessness.
Also consider joining a support group for survivors of the same type of trauma you experienced. Support groups for PTSD can help you feel less isolated and alone and also provide invaluable information on how to cope with symptoms and work towards recovery. If you can’t find a support group in your area, look for an online group.
PTSD self-help tip 4: Take care of yourself
The symptoms of PTSD can be hard on your body so it’s important to take care of yourself and develop some healthy lifestyle habits.
Take time to relax. Relaxation techniques such as meditation, deep breathing, massage, or yoga can activate the body’s relaxation response and ease symptoms of PTSD.
Avoid alcohol and drugs. When you’re struggling with difficult emotions and traumatic memories, you may be tempted to self-medicate with alcohol or drugs. But substance use worsens many symptoms of PTSD, including emotional numbing, social isolation, anger, and depression. It also interferes with treatment and can add to problems at home and in your relationships.
Eat a healthy diet. Start your day right with breakfast, and keep your energy up and your mind clear with balanced, nutritious meals throughout the day. Limit processed food, fried food, refined starches, and sugars, which can exacerbate mood swings and energy fluctuations.
Get enough sleep. Sleep deprivation exacerbates anger, irritability, and moodiness. Aim for somewhere between 7 to 9 hours of sleep each night. Develop a relaxing bedtime ritual (listen to calming music, watch a funny show, or read something light) and make your bedroom as quiet, dark, and soothing as possible.
Professional treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
Treatment for PTSD relieves symptoms by helping you deal with the trauma you’ve experienced. Rather than avoiding the trauma and any reminder of it, a doctor or therapist will encourage you to recall and process the emotions you felt during the original event in order to reduce the powerful hold the memory has on your life.
You’ll also:
Explore your thoughts and feelings about the trauma
Work through feelings of guilt, self-blame, and mistrust
Learn how to cope with and control intrusive memories
Address problems PTSD has caused in your life and relationships
Types of treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
Trauma-focused cognitive-behavioral therapy involves carefully and gradually “exposing” yourself to thoughts, feelings, and situations that remind you of the trauma. Therapy also involves identifying upsetting thoughts about the traumatic event–particularly thoughts that are distorted and irrational—and replacing them with more balanced picture.
Family therapy can help your loved ones understand what you’re going through. It can also help everyone in the family communicate better and work through relationship problems caused by PTSD symptoms.
Medication is sometimes prescribed to people with PTSD to relieve secondary symptoms of depression or anxiety. While antidepressants may help you feel less sad, worried, or on edge, they do not treat the causes of PTSD.
EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) incorporates elements of cognitive-behavioral therapy with eye movements or other forms of rhythmic, left-right stimulation, such as hand taps or sounds. These work by “unfreezing” the brain’s information processing system, which is interrupted in times of extreme stress.
Finding a therapist for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
When looking for a therapist, seek out mental health professionals who specialize in the treatment of trauma and PTSD. You can ask your doctor or other trauma survivors for a referral, or call a local mental health clinic, psychiatric hospital, or counseling center.
Beyond credentials and experience, it’s important to find a PTSD therapist who makes you feel comfortable and safe, so there is no additional anxiety about the treatment itself. Trust your gut; if a therapist doesn’t feel right, look for someone else. For therapy to work, you need to feel understood. To find a trauma therapist, see the Resources and References section below.
Helping someone with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
If a loved one has post-traumatic stress disorder, it can take a heavy toll on your relationship and family life. It can be hard to understand why your loved one won’t open up to you—why he or she is less affectionate and more volatile. The symptoms of PTSD can also result in job loss, substance abuse, and other stressful problems.
Letting your family member’s PTSD dominate your life while ignoring your own needs is a surefire recipe for burnout. In order to take care of your loved one, you first need to take care of yourself. It’s also helpful to learn all you can about PTSD. The more you know about the symptoms and treatment options, the better equipped you'll be to help your loved one and keep things in perspective.
Tips for helping a loved one with PTSD
Be patient and understanding. Getting better takes time so be patient with the pace of recovery
and offer a sympathetic ear. A person with PTSD may need to talk about the traumatic event over and over again. This is part of the healing process, so avoid the temptation to tell your loved one to stop rehashing the past and move on.
Try to anticipate and prepare for PTSD triggers.
Common triggers include anniversary dates; people or places associated with the trauma; and certain sights, sounds, or smells. If you are aware of what triggers may cause an upsetting reaction, you’ll be in a better position to offer your support and help your loved one calm down.
Don’t take the symptoms of PTSD personally.
Common symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder include emotional numbness, anger, and withdrawal. If your loved one seems distant, irritable, or closed off,
remember that this may not have anything to do with you or your relationship.
Don’t pressure your loved one into talking. It is often very difficult for people with PTSD to talk about their traumatic experiences. For some, it can even make things worse. Never try to force your loved one to open up.
Let the person know, however, that you’re there when and if he or she wants to talk.
Posttravmatska stresna motnja (PTSD, PTSM) je intenzivna anksiozna reakcija, ki je posledica preživetja izjemno hudega dogodka oziroma travme.
Pri tem je bila oseba močno prestrašena, doživela je občutke nemoči ali je bila v šoku.
Za posttravmatsko motnjo je značilno dolgotrajno podoživljanje travmatičnega dogodka – v obliki pogostega spominjanja, nočnih mor, "flash backov" doživetja ter močnih čustvenih ali telesnih odzivov ob srečanju z ljudmi ali situacijami, ki spominjajo na travmatičen dogodek.
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