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Spet se oglašam jaz, ker mi gredo včasih na živce mickine fakin nebuloze. Ti mica si morda poznala muslimanske države pred 20 leti, ko si kot študentka tavala po svetu. V tem času se je veliko spremenilo. me zanima. če bi se danes upala ustaviti, recimo v Maroku, na predelu, ki ne spada pod turističen del? Zakaj ste eni tako zavedeni? A vi resno mislite, da je vse kar mediji sproducirajo laž? Micka, to ni več svet, ki si ga ti poznala 20 let nazaj. dovolj jim je bilo poniževanja v obliki vojn. Sedaj nam pa vračajo in mi jih sprejemamo odprtih rok. Mitza, ti si spoznala muslimansko vero samo z ene plati, da bi jo spoznala pa še z druge si pa preveč zaslepljena. Sram te bodi.
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Zaslepljena s cim?
Zakaj bi se kdorkoli ( in Micka je, kolikor vem, verna kristjanska, ce se motim, me popravi in oprosti)
sramoval svojega stalisca da so tudi muslimani ljudje?
Zakaj bi se kdorkoli ( in Micka je, kolikor vem, verna kristjanska, ce se motim, me popravi in oprosti)
sramoval svojega stalisca da so tudi muslimani ljudje?
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Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/saphire/ Saphire
Zaslepljena s cim?Zakaj bi se kdorkoli ( in Micka je, kolikor vem, verna kristjanka, ce se motim, me popravi in oprosti)
sramoval svojega stalisca da so tudi muslimani ljudje?
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Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/micka/ Micka
Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/saphire/ Saphire
Zaslepljena s cim?Zakaj bi se kdorkoli ( in Micka je, kolikor vem, verna kristjanska, ce se motim, me popravi in oprosti)
sramoval svojega stalisca da so tudi muslimani ljudje?
Res je, kristjanka sem in celo resnično verujem v Boga.
Sicer pa, Saphire, hvala ti za iztočnico.
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/papez-poziva-zupnije-po-evropi-k-sprejemu-begunskih-druzin/373362 http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/papez-poziva-zupnije-po-evropi-k-sprejemu-begunskih-druzin/373362
A lahko poveš kako ga doživljaš? Boga namreč. Čisto iskreno sprašujem, zanimam me tvoje mnenje, tvoje doživljanje.
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Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/micka/ Micka
Fiddle, mislim da vsi, ki smo se malo pobliže srečali z muslimanskim svetom in ki hodimo po svetu z odprtimi očmi, vemo in poznamo te stvari in se seveda ne strinjamo z njimi. Vseeno sem pa še vedno mnenja, da je ljudem potrebno pomagati in da nobeno posploševanje ni dobro, ne da so vsi dobri in prav tako ne, da so vsi slabi. Vsi smo ljudje in si moramo pomagati med sabo. Resnično sem bila najprej olajšana in hvaležna zaradi nenadne odločitve Avstrijcev in Nemcev, potem pa vesela, ko sem videla sprejem beguncev (tako jih pač imenujem) v Avstriji in Nemčiji. Vesela sem, da je veliko ljudi, ki razmišljajo podobno kot Analiza in jaz in vesela sem, da begunci s tako hvaležnostjo in olajšanjem in pristno srečo v očeh sprejemajo pomoč. To pomeni, da smo kljub vsemu še vedno ljudje in človeški, oni in mi.Micka, si mi snela s prstov. Zakaj mislite, da so muslimani a priori slabi? Posebno begunci, katerim je islamizacija trenutno zadnja skrb. Ja so slabi - tisti, pred katerimi bezijo. Smo zaradi Hitlerja, Miloševiča in podobnih vsi evropejci slabi?
Tisti, ki imajo povezavo z extremisti so v Evropi ze dolgo. Celice, ki so jih odkrili pri nas, katerih glavni akterji so pohopsani, niso prišli kot begunci, temveč legalno.
Tudi mene skrbi za našo prihodnost, ampak s tem, da bom zaprla vrata pomoči potrebnim ne bom ničesar preprečila ali rešila. To bi lahko naredila samo zahodna politika, ki ji pa očitno (še) ni v interesu. Rajši prodajajo orozje in kujejo dobičke in za grešnega kozla imajo pa uboge ljudi.
Vsi vemo, kakšno je stanje v Iraku, Libiji ,Siriji po vmešavanju zahodne politike, da ne omenjamo Palestine, Vietnama ipd.
Grozno.
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Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/micka/ Micka
Avtor: Ateismus
Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/micka/ Micka
Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/saphire/ Saphire
Zaslepljena s cim?Zakaj bi se kdorkoli ( in Micka je, kolikor vem, verna kristjanska, ce se motim, me popravi in oprosti)
sramoval svojega stalisca da so tudi muslimani ljudje?
Res je, kristjanka sem in celo resnično verujem v Boga.
Sicer pa, Saphire, hvala ti za iztočnico.
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/papez-poziva-zupnije-po-evropi-k-sprejemu-begunskih-druzin/373362 http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/papez-poziva-zupnije-po-evropi-k-sprejemu-begunskih-druzin/373362
A lahko poveš kako ga doživljaš? Boga namreč. Čisto iskreno sprašujem, zanimam me tvoje mnenje, tvoje doživljanje.
Verjetno ne na tak način, kot si predstavljaš in bi rada slišal/a od mene. Ko si enkrat uradno zapisan smrti, potem pač drugače gledaš na življenje, tudi tuje. Seveda sem bila verna že prej, vse skupaj je vero samo še poglobilo.
Micka, ce sem tisto o smrti razumela prav, ne verjemi vsega, kar ti povejo.
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Avtor: http://www.cvek123.com/clani/micka/ Micka
Avtor: j.a.p.
No, na Danskem že zahtevajo I državo in demonstrirajo! Toliko...A lahko daš kak link prosim?
Sem pobrskala in nasla tole. Demonstracije so bile 25. avgusta.
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Mislim, da je bilo januarja, ko so bile večje demonstracije Pegide po Evropi.
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Ah, ta je pa dobra, v opisu
"when Will people see that liberal democracy/Cultural Marxism is destroying our people and our Society with mass immigration
cultural marxism...
"when Will people see that liberal democracy/Cultural Marxism is destroying our people and our Society with mass immigration
cultural marxism...
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Masovna imigracija uničuje družbo. Kaj ko se ne bi zapičila v neke nepomembne besede in se raje zamislila. A morda res trditev drži? Od kje bo pritekal denar za njihovo preživetje, kam bodo šli, kaj bodo počeli, kako se bodo zlili z družbo?
Zakaj gledate samo 3 tedne naprej? Prosim za odgovor.
Zakaj gledate samo 3 tedne naprej? Prosim za odgovor.
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http://www.egs.edu/faculty/giorgio-agamben/articles/we-refugees/ We Refugees Hannah Arendt / Giorgio Agamben
The first appearance of refugees as a mass phenomenon occurred at the end of World War I, when the collapse of the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, and Ottoman empires, and the new order created by the peace treaties, profoundly upset the demographic and territorial structure of Central and Eastern Europe. In just a short time, a million and a half White Russians, seven hundred thousand Armenians, five hundred thousand Bulgarians, a million Greeks, and hundreds of thousands of Germans, Hungarians, and Romanians left their countries and moved elsewhere. To these masses in motion should be added the explosive situation determined by the fact that in the new states created by the peace treaties on the model of the nation-state (for example, in Yugoslavia and in Czechoslovakia), some 30 percent of the populations comprised minorities that had to be protected through a series of international treaties (the so-called Minority Treaties), which very often remained a dead letter. A few years later, the racial laws in Germany and the Civil War in Spain disseminated a new and substantial contingent of refugees throughout Europe.
The first appearance of refugees as a mass phenomenon occurred at the end of World War I, when the collapse of the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, and Ottoman empires, and the new order created by the peace treaties, profoundly upset the demographic and territorial structure of Central and Eastern Europe. In just a short time, a million and a half White Russians, seven hundred thousand Armenians, five hundred thousand Bulgarians, a million Greeks, and hundreds of thousands of Germans, Hungarians, and Romanians left their countries and moved elsewhere. To these masses in motion should be added the explosive situation determined by the fact that in the new states created by the peace treaties on the model of the nation-state (for example, in Yugoslavia and in Czechoslovakia), some 30 percent of the populations comprised minorities that had to be protected through a series of international treaties (the so-called Minority Treaties), which very often remained a dead letter. A few years later, the racial laws in Germany and the Civil War in Spain disseminated a new and substantial contingent of refugees throughout Europe.
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Hannah Arendt titled chapter 5 of her book Imperialism, dedicated to the problem of refugees, "The Decline of the Nation-State and the End of the Rights of Man." This formulation - which inextricably links the fates of the rights of man and the modern national state, such that the end of the latter necessarily implies the obsolescence of the former - should be taken seriously. The paradox here is that precisely the figure that should have incarnated the rights of man par excellence, the refugee, constitutes instead the radical crisis of this concept. "The concept of the Rights of man," Arendt writes, "based on the supposed existence of a human being as such, collapsed in ruins as soon as those who professed it found themselves for the first time before men who had truly lost every other specific quality and connection except for the mere fact of being humans." In the nation-state system, the so-called sacred and inalienable rights of man prove to be completely unprotected at the very moment it is no longer possible to characterize them as rights of the citizens of a state. This is implicit, if one thinks about it, in the ambiguity of the very title of the Declaration of 1789, Declaration des droits de I'homme et du citoyen, in which it is unclear whether the two terms name two realities, or whether instead they form a hendiadys, in which the second term is, in reality, already contained in the first.
That there is no autonomous space within the political order of the nation-state for something like the pure man in himself is evident at least in the fact that, even in the best of cases, the status of the refugee is always considered a temporary condition that should lead either to naturalization or to repatriation. A permanent status of man in himself is inconceivable for the law of the nation-state.
That there is no autonomous space within the political order of the nation-state for something like the pure man in himself is evident at least in the fact that, even in the best of cases, the status of the refugee is always considered a temporary condition that should lead either to naturalization or to repatriation. A permanent status of man in himself is inconceivable for the law of the nation-state.
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Sem bral, kako so begunci nezadovoljni, ker so smeti vsepovsod/da je vsepovsod umazano. Madona, naj pucajo za sabo, pa ne bo nobenih smeti. Kaj bomo mi v Evropi še pucali za njih. Ne moreš verjet.
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Zacetek je zelo obetaven. Oni ze diktirajo, stavkajo,... Vse jim je samoumevno, nobene hvaleznosti,...
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Odgovor lahko oddate kot gost. Vgrajena je časovna omejitev 30 sekund za oddajo novega sporočila.
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