☕ SKRIVNOST IMENA Zava

Even though the name Sava became very common among (and not only South) Slavs, especially as a form of personal name, either male or female, and has a "Slavic tone," the river's name is not Slavic but Celtic and Roman in origin;[144] the Latin name was Savus. Another name, used for Sava in entirety or its lower part by Strabo, is Noarus.[145] Worshipping of various river gods in the area is traced back to the Late Bronze Age,[146] when the first settlements were founded along the Sava River.[147] Taurisci associated their river goddess Adsullata with the Savus.[144][146] Altars or inscriptions dedicated to the river god Savus were found at a number of locations along the river course, including at the Zelenci Pools where the Sava Dolinka rises, and a number of Roman settlements and castra built along the Via Pannonia, Roman road spanning from Aquileia to the Danube.[148] The settlements include Emona, Andautonia and Siscia (near modern-day Ljubljana, Zagreb and Sisak respectively) upstream of the Kupa River confluence, and Marsonia, itself built atop a prehistoric settlement,[149] Cibalae, Sirmium and Singidunum (in modern-day Slavonski Brod, Vinkovci, Sremska Mitrovica and Belgrade) downstream of the Kupa.[150] Besides the altar found at the Zelenci Pools, inscriptions and sites dedicated to Savus were found in remains of Emona,[151] Andautonia and Siscia.[152] Several years after 1751 completion of the Robba Fountain in Ljubljana, the three male figures sculpted as parts of the fountain were identified as statues of the river gods of Sava, Krka and Ljubljanica. In the early 20th century, the fountain was named the Fountain of Three Carniolan Rivers.[153] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava Sava Wikipedia

Savus A Gaulish god: The Sunny One/The Bright One Savus is a Gaulish god known from inscriptions found at Austria, Croatia and Slovenia. She is the tutelary deity of the river Sava (a tribute of the Danube) who originally seems to have been a solar deity. Synonyms: Gaul: The Sunny One/The Bright One Savus is a god known from several inscriptions along a river running through the Balkans that forms a tributary of the Danube. The deity is invoked at Saudöfel in Austria where he is invoked along with the goddess, Adsullata (CIL III, 03896). In Croatia he is invoked at Scitarjevo and Sisak (though there is no companion). In Slovenia he is invoked at Abbruch (RINMS 110) where he is named along with a goddess, Atsaluta whose name would seem to be a corruption of that of Adsullata. Savus is the tutelary deity of the river Sava (Save in German and Száva in Hungarian which is considered as the northern boundary of the Balkans. In Roman (and presumably pre-Roman) times the river was named Savus after the deity who was presumably the spirit and protector of this navigable waterway. Like Adsullata, with whom he is linked, Savus may originally have been a solar deity who later became the spiritual embodiment of the river Savus. Indeed, the name Savus may well be derived from the reconstructed proto-Celtic *sāwel-/*sūl- (sun), thus his name may be interpreted as 'the sunny one' or perhaps 'the bright one'. http://www.celtnet.org.uk/gods_s/savus.html Savus http://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=71470 A Latin defixio ( Sisak, Croatia) to the river god Savus

dragi Lelj, zakaj misliš, da so Veneti Savi rekli Zava. ???
Res je, da znamo brati s pomočjo slovenščine in slovenskih narečij zgodnej etruščanske in vse venetske tekste, vendar to ne pomeni, da so oni uporabljali enako kot mi Z in S. Kaj če je bil glas nekje vmes.

Morda si kje našel zakaj bi bil tam Z namesto današnjega S.

Lep pozdrav !

pravzaprav mislim da so rekli Zala 🙂

Morda, so res rekli Zala. Pa si prepričan da so tako prebrali. In zakaj bi rekli Zala in ne Zava.
Misliš morda ker so sredni L prebrali kot U , ZAUWA.
Lahko, more biti.
Drugič, ko pridejo tod mimo, jih moram bolje poslušati, te zagonetne UWENETE. Kaj pa če so bili veneti ZMENETI. Ta beseda je v slovneščini dobor poznana. Kaj misliš Ti, Lelj ????

nič ne mislim 🙂

No še eden ki nič ne misli. Torej Veš. to je še bolje. No jas sem poizkusila napisati kako bi prislo iz zapisanega L v V.

Pačili so našo lubo slovneščino vsi jezikoslovci, ker so se prilizovali enkrat tem dugič drugim. Gibanje panslavizma, je poleg nekaj koristi v glavnem škodovalo slovenščini.

Oglasi se še Lelj.

ugotovil sem iz imen Ljubljanskih ulic, da so bila včasih nemška imena ulic bolj dejanska kot pa slovenska imena v istem obdobju

Lelj zadnjega o nemških imenih nisem razumela..

hotel sem reči to, da so bila mnoga imena v nemščini poimenovana po lastnosti ulice oziroma njeni lastnosti, ki jo je v preteklosti dobila (kot je recimo čevljarski most dobil po čevljarjih)
medtem ko so v slovenščini dobile iste ulice imena, ki so bila brezvezna

V nekatih primerih imaš prav, vendar, vendar večin je pa zgrešenih. Vendar ne bova sedaj o tem, ker je predolgo pisanje in ker mi nihče ne verjame. Če kaj ne veš reci,to so bili Kelti ali hrvašeki.

Mogoče ti je pa težko verjeti prav zato, ker ne argumentiraš ali pa ne dovolj argumentiraš. Ko te človek kaj določenega vpraša si pogosto tiho ali pa preusmeriš temo.

Ja, upoštevam Tvoje in druga mnenja. Seveda iama argumente, vendar če nekdo ne misli s svojo glavo ti ne pomaga tisoč dokazov.
Poglej primer Hrenove ulice in Rožne ulice v Ljubljanai ali Planine Rožca v Karavnakah. Tudi Rožnik nad tivolijem in Rožna dolina, kar vse tri v Sloveniji se razumeva napačno.
Nemorem napisati vč kot enkrat, tako kot vsi drugi. Smo edini narod, ki rečemo vrtnici vrtnica vsi drugi razen poljakov imajo varijacije na rožo, ki je tudi slovenko ime, vendar danes nevemo več, kaj pomeni.

Prilepika sem tudi večje razumnike kot sem jaz pa mi odgovarjajo z Wikijem.
Ah bo že bolje ! Kaj ne.

In kakšno je pravo razumevanje teh imen ulic?

Vrtnicam se je pa v našem koncu vćasih reklo šipek oziroma šipki. Pri sorodnikih pa gartroža. Stari ljudje izraza vrtnica niso uporabljali.
Priznam, res sem večkrat nalepila linke iz vikija.
Mimogrede, kaj pomeni tvoj izraz how, ki ga večkrat uporabljaš?

Howgh! = Govoril sem!