ALHA AKBAR ALAH AKBAR! To je vojna napoveda zoper tebe nevernika, ki si drzneš objaviti našega velikega preroka! ALAH AKBAR ALAH AKBAR!! RATATATA RATATATA
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Če se jih še ne bojijo se jih bodo pa potem bolj. Mislim, da svtar nikakor ni nedolžna.
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Pokazali so tudi na druge nacine,
Verjamem, da je Republika stanovitna in pripravljena braniti svoje ideale
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Verjamem, da je Republika stanovitna in pripravljena braniti svoje ideale
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francozi so pokazali, da je svoboda tiska žaljenje ljudipejt v islamsko državo, kjer poznajo samo teror in suženjstvo. budala!
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"Pripravljena braniti svoje ideale"? 😉Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Kakor tudi Laïcité, torej sekularnost.
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naj raje unega palčka Sarkozija pokažejo, kako je na Gadafija oz. popolnoma suvereno državo Libijo pošiljal bombnike in pobijal civiliste še ne par let nazaj... pa kakšno sranje imajo zaradi njega zdaj tam!
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"Pripravljena braniti svoje ideale"? 😉Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Kakor tudi Laïcité, torej sekularnost.
To nima nič skupnega s tem, da imajo opravka z islamskimi skrajneži, ki se na te besede poserjejo.
Je treba biti malo realen in predvidevati, da včasih ni dobro siliti na prehod za pešce, čeprav imaš prednost. Ko te nabije avto, ti pravica prednosti prav nič ne pomaga.
Predpostavljam, da govoris o karikaturah, jaz pa o drugih nacinih, s katerimi so pokazali svoje dostojanstvo in moc in prav s tem se bodo borili proti poblaznelim skrajnezem. Menda ne bodo kar rekli, pardon, izvolite naprej s terorjem?
Kolikor je parola samo parole, vendar je dovolj razburkala javno mnenje, da se bodo lahko pojavili tisti, ki se ne strinjajo z svodobo govora za vsako ceno in povsod, in bodo svoje mnenje tudi utemeljili.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/charlie-hebdo-free-speech_b_6462584.html Kot naprimer tale s katerim se strinjam tudi jaz.
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Samo nekaj je pomembno. Do kje gre svoboda govora? Do tam, kjer MI mislimo, da lahko gre, ali do tam, kjer nekdo DRUG misli, da lahko gre?Kdo smo MI?
Svoboda govora kot eticni imperativ( 🙂 za kritiko vsake ideologije pod tem soncem, pri cemer Islam ne more biti izjema.
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Primer licemerja politikov, ki so se udelezili Pariskega zbora v podporo ) tudi) svodobi govora. St 17 me je malo presenetila..
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So here are some of the staunch defenders of the free press attending the solidarity rally in Paris today...
1) King Abdullah of Jordan, which last year sentenced a Palestinian journalist to 15 years in prison with hard labour
2) Prime Minister of Davutoglu of Turkey, which imprisons more journalists than any other country in the world
3) Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, whose forced killed 7 journalists in Gaza last yr (second highest after Syria)
4) Foreign Minister Shoukry of Egypt, which as well as AJ staff has detained journalist Shawkan for around 500 days
5) Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia, which last year jailed a journalist for "insulting a government servant"
6) Foreign Minister Lamamra of Algeria, which has detained journalist Abdessami Abdelhai for 15 months without charge
7) The Foreign Minister of the UAE, which in 2013 held a journo incommunicado for a month on suspicion of MB links
8) Prime Minister Jomaa of Tunisia, which recently jailed blogger Yassine Ayan for 3 years for "defaming the army
9) The PMs of Georgia and Bulgaria, both of whom have a record of attacking & beating journos
0) The Attorney General of the US, where police in Ferguson have recently detained and assaulted WashPost reporters
11) Prime Minister Samaras of Greece, where riot police beat & injured two journalists at a protest in June last year
12) Sec-Gen of NATO, who are yet to be held to account for deliberately bombing and killing 16 Serbian journos in '99
13) President Keita of Mali, where journalists are expelled for covering human rights abuses
4) The Foreign Minister of Bahrain, 2nd biggest jailer of journos in the world per capita (they also torture them)
15) Sheikh Mohamed Ben Hamad Ben Khalifa Al Thani of Qatar, which jailed a man for 15 ys for writing the Jasmine poem
17) Prime Minister Cerar of Slovenia, which sentenced a blogger to six months in prison for "defamation" in 2013 http://en.rsf.org/slovenia-blogger-gets-six-months-in-jail-16-05-2013,44621.html …
18) Prime Minister Enda Kenny of Ireland, where "blasphemy" is considered a criminal offense http://en.rsf.org/ireland-making-blasphemy-an-offence-takes-04-01-2010,35672.html …
19) Prime Minister Kopacz of Poland, which raided a magazine to seize recordings embarrassing for the ruling party
20) PM Cameron of the UK, where authorities destroyed documents obtained by The Guardian and threatened prosecution
21) Saudi ambassador to France. The Saudis publicly flogged blogger @raif_badawi for "insulting Islam" on Friday
Oh, and President Assad condemned the Charlie Hebdo attack too. Don't think this one really needs any more comment tbh.
Daniel Wickham @DanielWickham93
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So here are some of the staunch defenders of the free press attending the solidarity rally in Paris today...
1) King Abdullah of Jordan, which last year sentenced a Palestinian journalist to 15 years in prison with hard labour
2) Prime Minister of Davutoglu of Turkey, which imprisons more journalists than any other country in the world
3) Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, whose forced killed 7 journalists in Gaza last yr (second highest after Syria)
4) Foreign Minister Shoukry of Egypt, which as well as AJ staff has detained journalist Shawkan for around 500 days
5) Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia, which last year jailed a journalist for "insulting a government servant"
6) Foreign Minister Lamamra of Algeria, which has detained journalist Abdessami Abdelhai for 15 months without charge
7) The Foreign Minister of the UAE, which in 2013 held a journo incommunicado for a month on suspicion of MB links
8) Prime Minister Jomaa of Tunisia, which recently jailed blogger Yassine Ayan for 3 years for "defaming the army
9) The PMs of Georgia and Bulgaria, both of whom have a record of attacking & beating journos
0) The Attorney General of the US, where police in Ferguson have recently detained and assaulted WashPost reporters
11) Prime Minister Samaras of Greece, where riot police beat & injured two journalists at a protest in June last year
12) Sec-Gen of NATO, who are yet to be held to account for deliberately bombing and killing 16 Serbian journos in '99
13) President Keita of Mali, where journalists are expelled for covering human rights abuses
4) The Foreign Minister of Bahrain, 2nd biggest jailer of journos in the world per capita (they also torture them)
15) Sheikh Mohamed Ben Hamad Ben Khalifa Al Thani of Qatar, which jailed a man for 15 ys for writing the Jasmine poem
17) Prime Minister Cerar of Slovenia, which sentenced a blogger to six months in prison for "defamation" in 2013 http://en.rsf.org/slovenia-blogger-gets-six-months-in-jail-16-05-2013,44621.html …
18) Prime Minister Enda Kenny of Ireland, where "blasphemy" is considered a criminal offense http://en.rsf.org/ireland-making-blasphemy-an-offence-takes-04-01-2010,35672.html …
19) Prime Minister Kopacz of Poland, which raided a magazine to seize recordings embarrassing for the ruling party
20) PM Cameron of the UK, where authorities destroyed documents obtained by The Guardian and threatened prosecution
21) Saudi ambassador to France. The Saudis publicly flogged blogger @raif_badawi for "insulting Islam" on Friday
Oh, and President Assad condemned the Charlie Hebdo attack too. Don't think this one really needs any more comment tbh.
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Kot sem rekla, se popolnoma strinjam s tem zurnalistom
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/charlie-hebdo-free-speech_b_6462584.html Fed up with the hypocrisy of free speech
se posebej zadnjim odstavkom.
In the midst of all the post-Paris grief, hypocrisy and hyperbole abounds. Yes, the attack was an act of unquantifiable evil; an inexcusable and merciless murder of innocents. But was it really a "bid to assassinate" free speech (ITV's Mark Austin), to "desecrate" our ideas of "free thought" (Stephen Fry)? It was a crime - not an act of war - perpetrated by disaffected young men; radicalised not by drawings of the Prophet in Europe in 2006 or 2011, as it turns out, but by images of US torture in Iraq in 2004.
Please get a grip. None of us believes in an untrammelled right to free speech. We all agree there are always going to be lines that, for the purposes of law and order, cannot be crossed; or for the purposes of taste and decency, should not be crossed.
We differ only on where those lines should be drawn.
Has your publication, for example, run cartoons mocking the Holocaust? No? How about caricatures of the 9/11 victims falling from the twin towers? I didn't think so (and I am glad it hasn't).
Let's be clear: I agree there is no justification whatsoever for gunning down journalists or cartoonists. I disagree with your seeming view that the right to offend comes with no corresponding responsibility; and I do not believe that a right to offend automatically translates into a duty to offend.
When you say "Je suis Charlie", is that an endorsement of Charlie Hebdo's depiction of the French justice minister, Christiane Taubira, who is black, drawn as a monkey? Of crude caricatures of bulbous-nosed Arabs that must make Edward Said turn in his grave?
Lampooning racism by reproducing brazenly racist imagery is a pretty dubious satirical tactic. Also, as the former Charlie Hebdo journalist Olivier Cyran argued in 2013, an "Islamophobic neurosis gradually took over" the magazine after 9/11, which then effectively endorsed attacks on "members of a minority religion with no influence in the corridors of power".
It's for these reasons that I can't "be", don't want to "be", Charlie - if anything, we should want to be Ahmed, the Muslim policeman who was killed while protecting the magazine's right to exist. As the novelist Teju Cole has observed, "It is possible to defend the right to obscene... speech without promoting or sponsoring the content of that speech."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/charlie-hebdo-free-speech_b_6462584.html Fed up with the hypocrisy of free speech
se posebej zadnjim odstavkom.
In the midst of all the post-Paris grief, hypocrisy and hyperbole abounds. Yes, the attack was an act of unquantifiable evil; an inexcusable and merciless murder of innocents. But was it really a "bid to assassinate" free speech (ITV's Mark Austin), to "desecrate" our ideas of "free thought" (Stephen Fry)? It was a crime - not an act of war - perpetrated by disaffected young men; radicalised not by drawings of the Prophet in Europe in 2006 or 2011, as it turns out, but by images of US torture in Iraq in 2004.
Please get a grip. None of us believes in an untrammelled right to free speech. We all agree there are always going to be lines that, for the purposes of law and order, cannot be crossed; or for the purposes of taste and decency, should not be crossed.
We differ only on where those lines should be drawn.
Has your publication, for example, run cartoons mocking the Holocaust? No? How about caricatures of the 9/11 victims falling from the twin towers? I didn't think so (and I am glad it hasn't).
Let's be clear: I agree there is no justification whatsoever for gunning down journalists or cartoonists. I disagree with your seeming view that the right to offend comes with no corresponding responsibility; and I do not believe that a right to offend automatically translates into a duty to offend.
When you say "Je suis Charlie", is that an endorsement of Charlie Hebdo's depiction of the French justice minister, Christiane Taubira, who is black, drawn as a monkey? Of crude caricatures of bulbous-nosed Arabs that must make Edward Said turn in his grave?
Lampooning racism by reproducing brazenly racist imagery is a pretty dubious satirical tactic. Also, as the former Charlie Hebdo journalist Olivier Cyran argued in 2013, an "Islamophobic neurosis gradually took over" the magazine after 9/11, which then effectively endorsed attacks on "members of a minority religion with no influence in the corridors of power".
It's for these reasons that I can't "be", don't want to "be", Charlie - if anything, we should want to be Ahmed, the Muslim policeman who was killed while protecting the magazine's right to exist. As the novelist Teju Cole has observed, "It is possible to defend the right to obscene... speech without promoting or sponsoring the content of that speech."
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Ja, res je, prav imaš Saphir, te politične marjonete, pajaci. Kakšno licemerje, prava beseda.
Ne piše se nam dobor s takimi pajaci.
Ne piše se nam dobor s takimi pajaci.
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Odgovor lahko oddate kot gost. Vgrajena je časovna omejitev 30 sekund za oddajo novega sporočila.
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